The actress reveals things aren’t that serious between her and Ben Grimm, adding, “I’m also seeing four other rocks, you should know, at this time.”

Natasha Lyonne talks flirting with the Thing in Fantastic Four: ‘It’s kinky’

The actress reveals things aren't that serious between her and Ben Grimm, adding, "I'm also seeing four other rocks, you should know, at this time."

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Natasha Lyonne says flirting with Ben Grimm/the Thing in *Fantastic Four: The First Steps *was anything but a rocky experience. **

The actress, who stars as the Thing’s love interest Rachel Rozman in the Marvel film, tells ** that sparks were genuinely flying between her and Ebon Moss-Bachrach’s craggy character. **

“Oh gosh. Really kinda wild,” Lyonne confesses of flirting with the solid superhero while visiting **’s video studio for *The Bad Guys 2*. “Ebon and I have known each other for a long time, but, well, it’s kinky. I’ll be honest.”

Ebon Moss-Bachrach as Ben Grimm/The Thing, Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm/Invisible Woman, Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic and Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm/Human Torch in The Fantastic Four: First Steps.

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She continues, "Yes. Super specific. But I just love him so much, I mean, he's such a good actor. We've known each other for a very long time, too, so it was very special to be a part of that."

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Rachel, a schoolteacher, and Ben, a cosmically altered rockman, have their own mini meet-cute in *The First Steps* when she encounters him playing with one of her students. Despite the pair hitting it off, Ben keeps his distance from Rachel out of fear of being rejected, but ultimately seeks her out at a local synagogue in the end. **

Lyonne, however, insists that the pair isn't *that* serious. "By the way, I'm also seeing four other rocks, you should know, at this time," she teases. "I won't name names."

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But, before anyone gets any ideas, Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson is not one of them. "Not the Rock!" she quickly clarifies. "I'm so sorry, I just don't want it to get tangled up."

There may still be hope for Rachel and Ben's blooming romance — after all, the Fantastic Four are set to appear in *Avengers: Doomsday, *and if* First Steps* taught us anything, it's that the end of the world has a way of bringing people together.**

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